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Re: A second vote

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:37 am

Smouldering Stoat wrote:I don't know. Why don't you ask them?

Because I don't see them seeking what you say they do, so I thought first to question your inference.
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Re: A second vote

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:56 am

I think it's a statement of the bleeding obvious that they want to offer the choice between accepting the deal and remaining.
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Re: A second vote

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:59 am

Smouldering Stoat wrote:I think it's a statement of the bleeding obvious that they want to offer the choice between accepting the deal and remaining.

Is that after parliament has its "Meaningful vote" on deal or no deal? If the electorate is to choose then why not offer all three options?
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Re: A second vote

Postby atticus » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:53 am

The thing about two options, is that everyone is at total liberty after the event to say what each option in fact meant, even if no two interpretations agree. Why complicate things?
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Re: A second vote

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:46 pm

Hairyloon wrote:
Smouldering Stoat wrote:I think it's a statement of the bleeding obvious that they want to offer the choice between accepting the deal and remaining.

Is that after parliament has its "Meaningful vote" on deal or no deal? If the electorate is to choose then why not offer all three options?


I refer you to the answer I gave some moments ago. Feel free to let us know how you get on.
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Re: A second vote

Postby tph » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:04 pm

Smouldering Stoat wrote:Assuming you mean this campaign, they want the final Brexit deal put to a referendum with the options being to accept the deal or to remain.


One of the biggest complaints the remain campaign has made is that people who voted leave did not know what they were voting for. Is this not the case if there is a second referendum and they vote remain?
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Re: A second vote

Postby atticus » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm

Are you referring to people who change their minds on learning more?
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Re: A second vote

Postby tph » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:27 pm

No I am referring to the fact that it is not clear what you would be voting for if you vote remain in a second vote.
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Re: A second vote

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:29 pm

At least this time we can reasonably believe that the vote will be binding.
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Re: A second vote

Postby shootist » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:30 pm

Perhaps we could have a discussion on, or even a referendum on, the meaning of 'meaning'. Or could we be full members on odd numbered days and out of it on even numbered days? These seem to be about the only options that haven't been put forward by some or other well meaning and sincere expert.
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