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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby 3.14 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:26 pm

Hairyloon wrote:
3.14 wrote:I can murder with a stanley blade very easily and horribly disfigure someone's face too.

I don't doubt it, but I don't think such an attack would be properly described as "A stabbing".

Actually, a stabbing is any injury with a bladed weapon... When I was stabbed back in the 90s, it was 5 slashes and 2 stabbings.

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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby shootist » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:59 pm

Re slashing v stabbing, don't forget that this is mostly the words of journalists seeking sensation. Whatever it is, I would bet a modest amount that none of the street gang murders were committed using a zombie knife.
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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby 3.14 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:13 pm

Wikipedia wrote:A zombie knife (also known as a zombie killer knife or zombie slayer knife) is a type of knife. It is defined in English law as a blade with

1 - a cutting edge;
2 - a serrated edge; and
3 - images or words (whether on the blade or handle) that suggest that it is to be used for the purpose of violence.
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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby diy » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:22 am

So it needs words on it. but the defined words are vague.
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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby atticus » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:39 am

The words are not defined. para 3 is broad, and encompasses not just words, but also images.
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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby dls » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:26 am

Where exactly is the definition
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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby shootist » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:38 am

As the stated intentions of our lords and masters is the reduction of street gang violence, is there any chance at all that they might attend to the type of knives that these gangs mostly use? The government is using the opportunity to ban the ownership of .50 calibre rifles, implying that this will reduce gun crime, which is arrant nonsense, even more so than the banning of zombie knives reducing street gang stabbings.
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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby atticus » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:11 am

dls: have you read this thread? The definition has been posted twice. See post no. 2.
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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby Maz JP » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:17 am

I have no idea whether this adds anything relevant to the debate, but I have never heard the word 'zombie' attached to the word 'knife' in Court ; and we do an awful lot of knife crime.

I trust that assists.

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Re: Define a Zombie Knife

Postby diy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:34 pm

It came in to force in 2016, so relatively new.

The Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Offensive Weapons) (Amendment) Order 2016

It seems the aim was to reduce the possible defence angle a person might have for having a more normal knife.

e.g.
Image

could be a fishing or diving tool without the last requirement for words and pictures.
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