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Landowner and land registry question re Sherwood Forest

Postby Jimnibob » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:27 am

Hi,

I am pursuing some private research into the history of Sherwood Forest and would greatly appreciate some guidance on the interpretation of a land registry document I have obtained from HM Land Registry in order to clarify who the actual landowner is of Sherwood Forest.

The document reads as though it is the local Nottinghamshire County Council who manage Sherwood Forest. However, I am not unsure if they manage it under lease from the landowners or if they are the actual landowners themselves.

Can anyone advise, please? Below the asrtix, I have detailed the content of the land registry document.

Thank you

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Property Register

This register describes the land and estate comprised in the title. Except as mentioned below, the title includes any legal easements granted by the registered lease but is subject to any rights that it reserves, so far as those easements and rights exist and benefit or affect the registered land.

NOTTINGHAMSHIRE: NEWARK AND SHERWOOD

1 (06.05.2016) The Leasehold land demised by the lease referred to below which lies within the area shown edged with red on the plan of the above Title filed at the Registry and being Sherwood Forest Country Park, Edwinstowe, Mansfield (NG21 9HN).

NOTE: The land tinted green on the title plan is not included in the title.

2 (06.05.2016) The title includes any legal easements referred to in clause LR11.1 of the registered lease but is subject to any rights that are granted or reserved by the lease and affect the registered land.

3 (06.05.2016) The land has the benefit of the following rights reserved by but is subject to the following rights granted by a Conveyance of the land tinted green in this title dated 31 December 1952 made between

    (1) Earl Manvers
and
    (2) Southwell Rural District Council:-

"together with the rights and easements mentioned in the First Schedule hereto except and reserving unto the Vendor in fee simple the rights and easements mentioned in the Second Schedule hereto The First Schedule above referred to.

Particulars of rights granted.

All rights of way water and other rights in the nature of easements enjoyed with the land hereby conveyed or any part thereof whether the same may have been legal easements or rights exercised without any legal easement by virtue of the common ownership of the land hereby conveyed and the land over which such rights were exercised.

The Second Schedule above referred to.

Particulars of rights reserved.

All rights of way water drainage and other rights in the nature of easements affecting the land hereby conveyed or any part thereof whether the same may have been legal easements or rights exercised without any legal easement by virtue of the common ownership of the land hereby conveyed and the land for the benefit of which such rights were exercised.

4 (06.05.2016) Short particulars of the lease(s) (or under-lease(s)) under which the land is held:

Date : 1 April 2016

Term : 19 years from 1 April 2016 expiring on 31 March 2035

Parties :

    (1) The Lord Inglewood Peter Lindsay Auldjo Jamieson and Edward John Buxton Stansfield

    (2) Nottinghamshire County Council

5 (06.05.2016) The Lease prohibits or restricts alienation.

6 (06.05.2016) The landlord's title is registered.

Proprietorship Register

This register specifies the class of title and identifies the owner. It contains any entries that affect the right of disposal.

Title absolute

1 (06.05.2016) PROPRIETOR: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL of County Hall,Loughborough Road, West Bridgford, Nottingham NG2 7QP

Charges Register

This register contains any charges and other matters that affect the land.

1

(06.05.2016) The land is subject to the following rights reserved by a Conveyance of the freehold estate in the land tinted pink and other land dated 5 August 1920 made between (1) The Right Honourable Charles William Sydney Earl Manvers (2) Hugh Edward Egerton and The Honourable Algernon Malcolm Arthur Percy and (3) The Bolsover Colliery Company

Limited:-

"Together with full right and liberty for the Company and their assigns the owners and occupiers of the said Edwinstowe Hall Estate and their Undertenants and servants at all times hereafter by day or by night for all purposes with or without horses carts carriages wagons motors and other vehicles laden or unladen to go pass and repass and to drive cattle sheep and other animals along over and upon the road way shown upon the said plan upon adjoining land on the North side of the said premises and thereon marked Right of Road and thereon coloured Brown."

NOTE:-The Right of Road coloured brown referred to is shown tinted blue on the title plan.

2) (06.05.2016) The land is subject to the lease set out in the schedule of leases hereto.

Schedule of notices of leases

1) 18.08.2010 Edwinstowe Cricket Ground 31.03.2010

Edged and From and numbered 1 in including blue 1.4.2010 to and including30.3.2035

NOTE: The lease reserves rights as therein mentioned.

End of register
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Re: Landowner and land registry question re Sherwood Forest

Postby dls » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:47 am

The title appears to be to a lease. The registered owner of the leasehold title cannot be the freeholder.

The key part is


(1) The Lord Inglewood Peter Lindsay Auldjo Jamieson and Edward John Buxton Stansfield

(2) Nottinghamshire County Council

5 (06.05.2016) The Lease prohibits or restricts alienation.

6 (06.05.2016) The landlord's title is registered.


An appropriate serach will reveal the title no for teh freehold, and officecopies can be obtaied for that (those) title(s)
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Re: Landowner and land registry question re Sherwood Forest

Postby atticus » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:08 pm

The registered proprietor of this leasehold title appears to be Notts County Council.

NB part of the land appears to have been sub-leased to Edwinstowe Cricket Club.
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Re: Landowner and land registry question re Sherwood Forest

Postby TenaciousB » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:32 pm

atticus wrote:The registered proprietor of this leasehold title appears to be Notts County Council.

NB part of the land appears to have been sub-leased to Edwinstowe Cricket Club.


And the landowner is the Crown as it is for most land in England and Wales.
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Re: Landowner and land registry question re Sherwood Forest

Postby atticus » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:22 pm

Albeit that the freehold interest appears to belong the the aristocrats who are named as parties to the lease to Notts CC.
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Re: Landowner and land registry question re Sherwood Forest

Postby dls » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:02 pm

And the landowner is the Crown as it is for most land in England and Wales.


Not quite. The title in the land - teh ownership - resides with the registered proprietor. If for whatever reason that proprietorship comes to an end without someone else acquiring it, the land 'reverts to' the Crown through the doctrine of bona vacantia. To revert to someone suggest that it goes back to them, not tat theirownership was continuous.
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