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How far down is "below"?

Postby Hairyloon » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:39 pm

I have been looking at a Land Registry document relating to mining rights and it refers to "below the land marked... on the plan".
Fairly self explanatory, except as to how far down does "the land" go?
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby dls » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:31 am

To the middle of the earth
I forget the latin phrase
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby atticus » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:53 am

usque ad coelum et usque ad inferos
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby dls » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:44 am

That's the one
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:52 am

Sorry, but that does not make sense in the context. If I own my house and someone else owns the mining rights below my land, then which bit can they mine if it's mine to the middle of the Earth?
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby atticus » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:26 am

In your case the mining rights have either been sold by one of your predecessors in title or (more likely) taken by statute.
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby dls » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:48 am

You won the land, but very commonly the right to extract minerals can be reserved.

I remember a title in Manchester where the chap bought the house and land, but the title reserved all minerals of whatever nature from it. I did point out the absurdity, but was told that this applied to half of Manchester.
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby tph » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:23 pm

The middle of the earth measure is rather odd as when you think about it the plan area of the land owned would reduce with depth until eventually converging to a pinpoint at the earths centre.
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:54 pm

dls wrote:You won the land, but very commonly the right to extract minerals can be reserved.


I am familiar with the idea, and I'm not having a problem with it, I am just wondering how deep I can dig before I need worry about meeting the miners coming the other way. :?

I remember a title in Manchester where the chap bought the house and land, but the title reserved all minerals of whatever nature from it. I did point out the absurdity, but was told that this applied to half of Manchester.

So what happens if, for example, the householder knocks down a wall: the rubble is full of minerals, how can he dispose of it if they are reserved by the miner?
Or what if his predecessor laid a mains cable to the shed at the bottom of the garden, which has decayed and been disconnected? Is the miner allowed to come and dig it up?
If so, then at what point does it cease being cable and start being a mineral seam?
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Re: How far down is "below"?

Postby atticus » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:51 am

How deep below ground was your wall before you demolished it?

Are you seriously thinking that a services cable can be a mineral seam?
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