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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby Maz JP » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:21 pm

I second that. My friend was served with a harassment notice for 'looking at someone' .


That's a new one on me. I wonder if there was more to it than that?
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby preacherman » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:41 pm

Maz JP wrote:
I second that. My friend was served with a harassment notice for 'looking at someone' .


That's a new one on me. I wonder if there was more to it than that?


I think i kept a copy of the notice, I will try and did it out, it was for looking at someone (staring across the street) and then asking them private business questions. it was complete nonsense.
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby atticus » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:28 pm

There was undoubtedly more than just looking at another person. This laser look was part of a greater course of conduct.
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby dls » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:27 am

it was for looking at someone (staring across the street) and then asking them private business questions.

Which is the whole point. It criminalises otherwise lawful behaviour.

it was complete nonsense.

From your point of view. You should have shouted louder when the Act was passed.
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby Maz JP » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:01 am

atticus wrote:There was undoubtedly more than just looking at another person.


Ah, I'm not so sure now. I knew I had seen something about the criminalisation of "looking at me in a funny way".

And here it is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chOtJdiBZR4

One minute and 5 seconds or so in...
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby preacherman » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:20 pm

atticus wrote:There was undoubtedly more than just looking at another person. This laser look was part of a greater course of conduct.


yes as stated, then asking the barmen 'personal business questions'.

he lived in a flat, above a bar.
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby preacherman » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:22 pm

dls wrote:
it was for looking at someone (staring across the street) and then asking them private business questions.

Which is the whole point. It criminalises otherwise lawful behaviour.

it was complete nonsense.

From your point of view. You should have shouted louder when the Act was passed.


it has is purposes though. I would have not known a bunch of people went into the police station and 'complained' or as I would state it, 'Conspired' had they not felt distressed and alarmed.
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby preacherman » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:23 pm

Maz JP wrote:
atticus wrote:There was undoubtedly more than just looking at another person.


Ah, I'm not so sure now. I knew I had seen something about the criminalisation of "looking at me in a funny way".

And here it is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chOtJdiBZR4

One minute and 5 seconds or so in...



:lol:
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby Millbrook2 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:15 pm

Person A is dismissed for gross misconduct and appeals.
Before the appeal is heard a Director contacts the clients she was responsible for and tells them of the dismissal and that it was for gross misconduct.

Harassment or not?
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Re: Where is the line between naming and shaming and harassm

Postby atticus » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:31 pm

I suspect that the reason for the contact was to tell the client she'd be dealing with someone new: not harassment but a business reason.

However, this may just leave scope to argue that the appeal was already decided. This may be helpful if there is evidence to call into question the fairness of the process that led to the original decision to dismiss.

Further discussion of this is off topic. To continue, please start another thread.
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