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Good advice gone bad?

Postby shootist » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:31 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-39233617

I am at a complete loss as to the outrage displayed by some organisations at this judges comments. There is no 'victim blaming' in her words, just good advice and common sense.

A female judge has warned women who get drunk they are putting themselves in danger of being targeted by rapists.
Lindsey Kushner QC said women were entitled to "drink themselves into the ground" but their "disinhibited behaviour" could put them in danger.
Judge Kushner made the courtroom plea as she jailed a man for six years who raped a girl he met in a Burger King in Manchester city centre last year.
But, Rape Crisis slammed her comments as "outrageous" and "misguided".
Yvonne Traynor, chief executive of Rape Crisis South East, said: "As a judge and a woman she should know better.
"The only person who is responsible for rape, is the rapist.
"Women are yet again being blamed for rape."

The judge spoke out as she retired from the criminal bench.
Judge Kushner, 64, said "as a woman judge" it would "be remiss" if she did not beg women to protect themselves from predatory men who ''gravitate'' towards drunken females.
The mother of two, who has sat as a senior circuit judge since 2002, said judges have been criticised for "putting more emphasis on what girls should and shouldn't do than on the act and the blame to be apportioned to rapists".
"There is absolutely no excuse and a woman can do with her body what she wants and a man will have to adjust his behaviour accordingly," she said.
But she said she does not "think it's wrong for a judge to beg woman to take actions to protect themselves".
"I do not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death my right to be offended by it."
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Re: Good advice gone bad?

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:18 am

shootist wrote:I am at a complete loss as to the outrage displayed by some organisations at this judges comments.

Are you really?
May I direct you to your own signature? It may shed some light on the matter.
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Re: Good advice gone bad?

Postby tph » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:17 pm

I agree, it is much ado about nothing.
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Re: Good advice gone bad?

Postby atticus » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:53 pm

Here's what The Secret Barrister has to say on the subject
https://t.co/WB9cEDvFYf
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Re: Good advice gone bad?

Postby Spankymonkey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:40 am

atticus wrote:Here's what The Secret Barrister has to say on the subject
https://t.co/WB9cEDvFYf


Compare and contrast that with the Guardian's predictable and automatic response to the Judge's comments:

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2017/03/ ... dangerous/

Typically with the Guardian, the comments section is closed so their journalists don't have to witness how completely out of touch they are with their own readers.
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