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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby dls » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:31 pm

The file names as recorded may solve one or two doubts.
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby dls » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:32 pm

There should be a olicy somewhere for the use and retention of files. Get the policy, and check it.
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby Spankymonkey » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:45 pm

The policy you are looking for is here.

http://library.college.police.uk/docs/h ... evices.pdf

The IPCC are a fiction factory. You are right to be skeptical of every word they say, and right to be suspicious of the irregular use of BWV. Read the manual supplied and you will see exactly how easy it is to delete material. Although not so easy to interfere with the sequential structure of the filenames without resetting the device.

Incidentally the police would not be under any obligation to provide a 'windows explorer screen print' of the file structure of the BWV hard drive, as it would fall outside of both FOI and Subject Access.

Batteries don't just go flat on police BWV. They give clear advanced warnings. There is also a red flashing light visible on the device whenever it is recording. If you saw it flashing, it was recording,
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby dls » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:59 pm

However what appears to be the case is that the police can say it is faulty and that is the end of the matter. That is also totally unacceptable. If they say the camera is faulty and failed to record that doesn't necessarily mean wrongdoing but there MUST be some sort of evidence to support this.


Sorry, big assumptions.
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby Spankymonkey » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:32 pm

What exactly do you believe the police are liable for in this instance? They are under no statutory obligation to use BWV, nor do any of their policies and procedures constitute law. Using a BWV camera that fails and is misused the way you described is not criminal negligence. You have no claim you can bring against the police as you have not identified any cause of action nor do you have any evidence that the police tampered with the camera, just your belief that they did.

Nobody here is qualified to answer all the technical questions you ask about BWV. Only the police, or perhaps the manufacturers of those cameras can answer those questions. You would be better to write up your questions as a Freedom of Information request and send it to the relevant force.
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby Hairyloon » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:00 am

Spankymonkey wrote:Using a BWV camera that fails and is misused the way you described is not criminal negligence...

No, but if the failure didn't happen and is only an excuse to withhold evidence, which is what I understand OP is alleging, then that would introduce criminal aspects.
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:18 pm

I am not commenting on the merit of OP's assertions, but he does make a valid point: these cameras ought not be able to fail and that failure to go unnoticed. If they were cheap and cheerful things bought for £20 a pop at the local market, then such failures might be expected, but I imagine they cost considerably more than that and for them to fail so readily undermines their very purpose.
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby dls » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:40 pm

This may be a tough situation, but it has all the hallmarks of some optimistic guesswork both as to the law and as to what may or may not have happened.

Talk of officer's negligence here is misplaced.
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:09 pm

dls wrote:This may be a tough situation, but it has all the hallmarks of some optimistic guesswork both as to the law and as to what may or may not have happened...

I am reading it mainly as a not unreasonable optimism about the capabilities of the equipment.
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Re: Body Worn Camera footage

Postby dls » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:33 pm

We none of us know - including the OP. There are many ocasions when we think we know something but are quite unable to prove it, and without that proof, nothing can be done. The OP appears to have hit a brick wall.
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