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Re: Put simply

Postby dls » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:12 am

I want to see a Vote of No Confidence in the whole -ing administration.


Which has a purpose only if there is knowledge of and agreement about a better way forward
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Re: Put simply

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:13 am

Hairyloon wrote:In that event, it would not be the vote that mattered so much as the discussions leading up to the vote.
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Re: Put simply

Postby atticus » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:44 am

Yes, he wrote that. But not in bold type.
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Re: Put simply

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:30 am

Sorry, did you need the point spelling out?
The discussions leading to the vote can, and must identify the failings and propose better ways forward.
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Re: Put simply

Postby dls » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:46 pm

Haven't such discussions always been held?
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Re: Put simply

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:29 pm

dls wrote:Haven't such discussions always been held?

Down the pub, yes. Formally and properly, I am not aware so.
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Re: Put simply

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:24 pm

Is there anybody here who thinks the system is working perfectly fine? That it has enabled us to install the best people into the most important jobs?
Even if it is and it has, can anyone argue that most people believe that to be the case?
Surely a fundamental function of the system is not only that it works, but that it is seen to be working.
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Re: Put simply

Postby dls » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:34 am

Surely a fundamental function of the system is not only that it works, but that it is seen to be working


No.It is inevitable that we struggle along with the least worst alternative. Didn't Churchill say something about this?
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Re: Put simply

Postby Hairyloon » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:40 am

dls wrote:
Surely a fundamental function of the system is not only that it works, but that it is seen to be working


No.It is inevitable that we struggle along with the least worst alternative.

Only if it is the least worst out of all the available options.

Didn't Churchill say something about this?

He said it was the least worst out of those that have been tried. Furthermore, he was speaking in general terms: "democracy" is quite a broad church.
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Re: Put simply

Postby shootist » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:35 pm

Hairyloon wrote:Only if it is the least worst out of all the available options.


You really think that we have always chosen the least worst of options?

Hairyloon wrote:
Didn't Churchill say something about this?

He said it was the least worst out of those that have been tried. Furthermore, he was speaking in general terms: "democracy" is quite a broad church.


He also said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." Churchill was a great man of his time, and an absolute arse out of it. I genuinely believe he saved this country from the Nazis, but I never forget he was a politician, and said what suited him to say.
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