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Re: On Democracy.

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:43 am

miner wrote:
Hairyloon wrote: ..... The point is that it has been forbidden in no uncertain terms, to do so.


What a load of utter nonsense!

You really are quite comical in the way you completely and consistently miss the point.
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby dls » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:16 am

Why so? Do you really think they would not welcome us rejoining?


Not if the Scots get there first (smiley)
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby tph » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:16 pm

Would Scotland meet the criteria on it's own?
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby atticus » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:07 pm

I expect an independent Scotland would not be a worse prospect than some of the 27.
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby shootist » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:37 pm

Not like you to post good reasons for leaving the EU.
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby atticus » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:42 pm

Like you not to understand.
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby miner » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:52 pm

Several years have now passed since the last of the other 27 were admitted as members.

You seem to be blind to the fact that without the UK's contributions, the UK reputedly being one of the only 4 or 5 net contributors to the EU's funds, the EU's funding of its incompetently-managed, socialist agenda has become a massive problem for the EU, rendering what's left of the EU unlikely to be able to take on any more lame-duck members.

Scotland would, therefore, be an infinitely worse prospect than the "some of the 27" that you mention.

Furthermore, since the 5-10 years which would elapse between now and Scotland gaining independence - if it ever does - which seems unlikely, and applying for and gaining membership (also unlikely because of the parlous state of Scotland's finances without Westminster subsidies, via the Barnett formula and whatever), Scotland's economy under its financially-illiterate, spendthrift, socialist SNP government would be in a far worse state by then than they are in even now.

In any event, the EU - certainly as we know it today - will have ceased to exist by then.
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby miner » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:54 pm

tph wrote:Would Scotland meet the criteria on it's own?


Most certainly not.

PS - I find your misuse of the apostrophe rather confusing at times!
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby tph » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:26 pm

atticus wrote:I expect an independent Scotland would not be a worse prospect than some of the 27.


That's not a yes or no!
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Re: On Democracy.

Postby atticus » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:26 pm

I suspect that miner may not agree with all the content of the PM's letter to Mr Tusk. I was pleased to read her several references to the deep and special relationship between the UK and the EU, and to see that she rightly says that the UK wants the EU to succeed.

I was also pleased to see that the letter proposes a number of principles to be adopted by both sides in the negotiations to come. I have yet to study them fully, but. If Brexit must happen, they seema decent start.
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