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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby Hairyloon » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:25 pm

dls wrote:
I suppose one might argue that the nation herself is defamed by one of her peers conducting himself so badly,


Even if he did what he is accused of (I have no idea) it is not at all arguable that the nation is defamed. A clear part of the law of defamation is that groups as such cannot be defamed.

There may be no argument in law, but I think there is in the common usage of the word: the reputation of the nation is diminished by the misconduct of her peers.

But you have me puzzled. Is the nation not a legal entity, and doesn't the law treat legal entities as individuals rather than groups?
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:10 am

The nation is not a body corporate capable of suing in its own name, no.
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby dls » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:31 am

and it does not have a legal reuptation capable of protection at law.
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:19 am

Both of you miss the point and avoid the question.
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby atticus » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:50 am

It seems to me that in that case the point may not have been clearly made and the question not clearly asked.
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:31 am

atticus wrote:It seems to me that in that case the point may not have been clearly made...

Which part are you struggling with?
Hairyloon wrote:There may be no argument in law, but I think there is in the common usage of the word: the reputation of the nation is diminished by the misconduct of her peers.

and the question not clearly asked.

Well OK, it was two questions at once and I can see how that might confuse you: I'll put them separate for your benefit:
Is the nation not a legal entity?
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doesn't the law treat legal entities as individuals rather than groups?
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby atticus » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:41 am

I was responding to you saying that two others had missed the point. But you have clarified that in your opinion it's not you, but them.
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby dls » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:54 pm

Some legal entities have some legal characteristics and rights but not others.
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby Millbrook2 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:25 pm

Isn't the point of this board that terms are discussed according to the legal meaning rather than common usage.
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Re: Why is this news so quiet?

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:30 pm

I suggest that is a guideline rather than a term of use.
I can't see that it matters as long as they are not confused.
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