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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby atticus » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:38 pm

I would always recommend taking a full package of proposals to the initial meeting. Thought should be given to all such matters in advance.

What form will the initial meeting take, I wonder.
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:02 pm

dls wrote:I think HL needs to try to identify just what it is about a meeting which is so off putting and which would not be equally present in any group of people working together to reach agreement.

A meeting is by its nature quite restricted. The size of the room restricts the number that can attend, the time limit restricts what can be accomplished, and human limitations restricts the number of things that can be discussed at once.
An online virtual meeting need have none of those restrictions except for time, but that can be made much longer because nobody has to get home afterwards.
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:31 pm

It excludes anyone who, for whatever reason, cannot participate electronically.
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:34 pm

Smouldering Stoat wrote:It excludes anyone who, for whatever reason, cannot participate electronically.

Only if those people also cannot talk to people who can.
In any case, are those people more or less significant than those who are not able to get to the town hall at 7:30pm on Tuesday evening?
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby dls » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:31 am

The point I am making is that a meeting is a meeting. I doubt very much that those objecting to meetings do so because of the limiting physical characteristics you identify.

Just about to disappear into meetings all day from 9:00 . .
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby atticus » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:44 am

By the OP's reasoning, people who cannot conveniently get to a meeting may talk to someone who can.

Problem solved?
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:41 am

The difference being that if a virtual meeting is held over a few days, then the person who cannot attend can still respond to what is being said at the meeting.
At a traditional meeting, all his friend could do is to tell him what had been discussed.
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby atticus » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:52 am

and pass on his friend's views, having previously discussed them.

One friend might give the other a proxy, if the rules of the organisation, having been approved in a suitable meeting, so permit.
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:44 am

atticus wrote:and pass on his friend's views, having previously discussed them.

But he cannot pass on the views of what has been said at the meeting if the meeting is closed. Are you really failing to spot the significant difference?
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Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby atticus » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:54 am

No. Our views are not incompatible. There can be an overlap of approach.
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