Discussing UK law. Links: swarb.co.uk | law-index | Acts | Members Image galleries

Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:01 pm

Millbrook2 wrote:
Presumably though you would still have officers with responsibilities - finance and auditing for example.

I believe that secretary and treasurer are the minimum. There are good reasons to have more than that.

How would that then not function as a committee with the same potential objections that were in the first post.

Therein lies the problem.

I visited another allotment site today, one that I had understood to be well run, but I heard very serious allegations of misconduct and abuse of power by the committee. It seems there are a core of untouchable militants running things.
I hear of similar things from a great many allotment sites, and this is what we want to be avoiding.
Take me to your lizard...
User avatar
Hairyloon
 
Posts: 9563
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:12 pm
Location: From there to here and here to there... Funny things are everywhere.

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby dls » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:27 pm

Then the solution is not to abandon committees, but for the allotments holders to raise themselves from their arses and get involved.
David Swarbrick (Admin) dswarb@gmail.com - 0795 457 9992
User avatar
dls
Site Admin
 
Posts: 11919
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:35 pm
Location: Brighouse, West Yorkshire

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:52 pm

I find it a remarkable proposition that these militants would be so much better behaved if only they didn't have to answer to a committee.
Smouldering Stoat
 
Posts: 6177
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:31 pm
Location: Near the Creek.

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:06 pm

dls wrote:Then the solution is not to abandon committees, but for the allotments holders to raise themselves from their arses and get involved.

I am told that that has been tried. I am not wholly convinced, but I have not had time to investigate further.
Smouldering Stoat wrote:I find it a remarkable proposition that these militants would be so much better behaved if only they didn't have to answer to a committee.

Is it not obvious that they are the committee?
Take me to your lizard...
User avatar
Hairyloon
 
Posts: 9563
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:12 pm
Location: From there to here and here to there... Funny things are everywhere.

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:19 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Unless your proposed membership is so proximate and small (<50) that it can function as a large committee, I do not think this will be feasible.

Why should that be so difficult?
With the Internet we can quite easily have a meeting of many many people. There may be logistical problems with hearing thousands of people talking at once, but if such talk is written, then those problems are not so very hard to manage.
Take me to your lizard...
User avatar
Hairyloon
 
Posts: 9563
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:12 pm
Location: From there to here and here to there... Funny things are everywhere.

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby atticus » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:41 pm

There is a need to be able to determine what has been agreed.
User avatar
atticus
 
Posts: 19030
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:27 pm
Location: E&W

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:55 pm

atticus wrote:There is a need to be able to determine what has been agreed.

That ought not be difficult: you could simply have a ballot, though I'd suggest that is one of the less effective methods.
A more difficult problem might be that of sock-puppets, but if we can have reasonable confidence in online banking, then we ought to be able to be confident in online voting.
Take me to your lizard...
User avatar
Hairyloon
 
Posts: 9563
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:12 pm
Location: From there to here and here to there... Funny things are everywhere.

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby atticus » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:11 pm

Difficult or not, there must be a mechanism.
User avatar
atticus
 
Posts: 19030
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:27 pm
Location: E&W

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:27 pm

You want me to detail that mechanism now? Is that not something that should be decided at the initial meeting?
Take me to your lizard...
User avatar
Hairyloon
 
Posts: 9563
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:12 pm
Location: From there to here and here to there... Funny things are everywhere.

Re: Writing the committee out of the Constitution.

Postby dls » Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:36 pm

I think HL needs to try to identify just what it is about a meeting which is so off putting and which would not be equally present in any group of people working together to reach agreement.
David Swarbrick (Admin) dswarb@gmail.com - 0795 457 9992
User avatar
dls
Site Admin
 
Posts: 11919
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:35 pm
Location: Brighouse, West Yorkshire

PreviousNext

Return to Trusts/Equity/Charity

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest