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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:44 pm

Are you able to comment on whether his suggestion was particularly vile?
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby atticus » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:22 pm

The point remains that whatever you think of MPs blocking other users on Twitter, whatever else you might do were you in their place, they do not do anything unlawful by doing so.
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:20 am

That'll be a "No" then.


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I'll ask again: do you think it right that MP's should stifle public debate?
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby atticus » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:53 am

You appear, wilfully or not, to miss the point: whatever you think of MPs blocking other users on Twitter, whatever else you might do were you in their place, they do not do anything unlawful by doing so.

In this case, I suspect the MP reacted to the (relatively mild) personal insult, rather than the words which preceded it.
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:40 am

That we have not yet identified any law which they transgress does not prove that they have done nothing unlawful, but that is not the issue here.
The question is of whether it is right for them to stifle debate and if not then what can be done about it?
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby atticus » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:36 am

In English law it is for the person alleging unlawful activity to prove it, not for the other to prove there has been nothing unlawful. That is what "innocent until proven guilty means".

Further, I question the premise that when one Twitter user blocks another, he is "stifling" debate.
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby dls » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:13 pm

I'll ask again: do you think it right that MP's should stifle public debate?


he is not. He is merely declining to participate with one person in particular. He has no obligation to engage with everybody and anybody.
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:50 am

dls wrote:
I'll ask again: do you think it right that MP's should stifle public debate?


he is not. He is merely declining to participate with one person in particular...

No, he is also inhibiting that person's ability to engage.

If the MP is a lead figure in a given field then anything he submits to the service will be a significant focus for debate in that field. By blocking the person, he significantly excludes them from those foci.

He has no obligation to engage with everybody and anybody.

True, but he ought to be obliged to engage with somebody. Our politicians are too often allowed to spout off baloney with little or no challenge: we need better mechanisms to call them to account.
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby atticus » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:23 am

I have the impression of someone in search of a solution; and that when that is found, the search will be on for a problem.
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Re: MP's and social media.

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:50 am

If you don't see a problem, then I think you're in a wood for the trees situation.

We are having a constitutional meltdown brought about by the simple fact that the government is entirely out of touch with the governed.
Any mechanisms for putting them back in touch should be seized upon and exploited to the fullest.
Twitter is a platform that appears to be popular with both sides and has enormous potential, except there are a few fundamental problems that prevent that potential from being realised.
One of the biggest of these is that they typically refuse to engage except on their own terms.

The obvious solution to that is to set out and agree to terms which are mutually acceptable.
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