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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby atticus » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:57 am

No diy, I have implied nothing. I have stated clearly that to lawyers and other professionals it is absolutely unacceptable for others to have access to data. Client confidentiality is paramount.
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby dls » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:16 pm

diy,

Such questions were an issue even when I was in practice. I always refused to allow any such access. It is not difficult.

As Atti says, this is a simple must for lawyers.
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby atticus » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:02 pm

And if lawyers can achieve such terms, so can others, such as Members of Parliament.
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby Hairyloon » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:36 pm

Which was not entirely the purpose of the thread, but no matter: these discussions can go where they will. I'm off out now: will pick this up again when I get back...
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby diy » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:30 am

You still haven't said, if you concerns are with the prioritisation of cases (e.g. secret algorithms, like a search engine) or the content and security of the information stored? Even if your MP is not using a cloud service.. this guide gives you some info of things to check/ask: https://ico.org.uk/media/for-organisati ... ations.pdf

You might also be able to find details of the service provider here: https://www.digitalmarketplace.service.gov.uk/

dls wrote:diy,

Such questions were an issue even when I was in practice. I always refused to allow any such access. It is not difficult.

As Atti says, this is a simple must for lawyers.


Yes, but with Cloud the roles have changed. You no longer procure software running on computers under your control. You procure a service and that service provider, may use 3rd party services and they may also use 3rd party services and computers. Increasingly you will be contracting for an outcome, not a list of bits n bobs. In may cases, no amount of salesmen's bluff will distract away from the fact that he cannot do what you ask even if he contracts to do so. With government services, there has been a strong push to open up to the smaller specialist players, unfortunately these firms wont have the resources to build their own data centres and will be signed up to others.
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby atticus » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:59 am

In your world, maybe.

Law firms are regulated by the SRA, which imposes strict rules about data security. We are responsible for data security, and are obliged to make sure that confidentiality is protected. By allmeans read the various posts on the SRA website to inform yourself further.

If lawyers can have systems which protect client information, so can MPs.
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby dls » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:47 am

Yes, but with Cloud the roles have changed. You no longer procure software running on computers under your control.


They have only changed if you are content to keep things in the cloud. You describe exactly why such systems are not generally useable by lawyers.
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby Hairyloon » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:18 pm

"The Cloud" does not exist. What it means is somebody else's hard drive.
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby dls » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:22 pm

. . and transparency is not a characteristic readily associated with clouds.
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Re: MP's and case management software.

Postby Hairyloon » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:21 pm

From their website:
<No Names> is web based – so you can log in from any device, wherever you are. Whether you’re in the office, at home, or out and about with an iPad you always have full access to everything.

All of your data is securely stored in the cloud, on the same servers as YouTube, Spotify and Google Search. This means your data is always safe and can't be lost, even if something happens to your computer.


Though I hasten to add that that was not the reason I raised the subject.
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