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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:42 pm

Well found. Can I trouble you for a link?

But compliance with the Electoral Commission is not the same as complying with the Labour party's rules. Indeed, if Leave Labour is not officially endorsed by the party then supporting them (Leave Labour) is an expellable offence.
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby atticus » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:03 pm

It was tweeted by the organisation in question
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby Goldensyrup » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:42 pm

Labour for a referendum Limited, was incorporated as a dormant company on the 14th March 2013. The company changed it's name on the 8th March 2015 to Labour Leave Limited. Company documents indicate no affiliation to the Labour Party.
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby dls » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:54 pm

The company will not isteld bea member of teh Labour Party, and so is free to do as it wishes.
It is no doubt a separate legal entity from its members.

That its shareholders might also be labur party members does not really affect it. Afer all many labour mebers were properly inclined to vote to leave.
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:18 pm

Goldensyrup wrote:Labour for a referendum Limited, was incorporated as a dormant company on the 14th March 2013. The company changed it's name on the 8th March 2015 to Labour Leave Limited. Company documents indicate no affiliation to the Labour Party.

I would not necessarily expect the company documents to show that.
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:56 pm

Hairyloon wrote: Indeed, if Leave Labour is not officially endorsed by the party then supporting them (Leave Labour) is an expellable offence.


Cobblers. The RSPCA is not endorsed by Labour but you can't be chucked out of the Party for supporting them.
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:03 pm

Smouldering Stoat wrote:
Hairyloon wrote: Indeed, if Leave Labour is not officially endorsed by the party then supporting them (Leave Labour) is an expellable offence.


Cobblers. The RSPCA is not endorsed by Labour but you can't be chucked out of the Party for supporting them.

The RSPCA are not (supposed to be) a political organisation.
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:25 pm

The point is that supporting an organisation not endorsed by Labour is not an expellable offence. Labour Leave is not endorsed by Labour: after all, Labour Party policy was to support Remain.

Indisputably, supporting Ukip would lead to expulsion (because there's a specific rule against supporting an organisation which stands against Labour. But the support for Ukip (if such it is) has not come from a member of Labour. Labour Leave Ltd has separate legal personality.
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:58 pm

Smouldering Stoat wrote:The point is that supporting an organisation not endorsed by Labour is not an expellable offence.

No? Perhaps I am misunderstanding the rules:
A member of the party who joins and/ or supports a political organisation other than an official Labour group or other unit of the party, or supports any candidate who stands against an official Labour candidate, or publicly declares their intent to stand against a Labour candidate, shall automatically be ineligible to be or remain a party member, subject to the provisions of Chapter 6.I.2 below of the disciplinary rules.
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Re: Parties donating to other parties.

Postby atticus » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:04 pm

No. You are misunderstanding what stoaty has said, and what you yourself said earlier.
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