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No Confidence (again).

No Confidence (again).

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:59 am

There is talk of an early election. As I understand it, there are three ways this can happen:
  • Revoke the Fixed Term Parliaments Act
  • A motion by 2/3 of the house
  • A vote of no confidence

The first two are straightforward, but seem to me unlikely and the third presents an interesting question: normally after a vote of no confidence, the Leader of the Opposition has 14 days to try to form a government, but the current one has formally lost the confidence of his MP's so is unlikely to command the confidence of the house...
Does someone else get the chance to have a go?
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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby dls » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:22 am

seem to me unlikely


The first is quite likely if people start buggering about with the Article 50 legislation.
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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:32 pm

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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby atticus » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:36 pm

That is a private member's bill. It is possible that the government may support it.
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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:44 pm

I doubt it, the Government is trying to damp down speculation about an early election.

Is it the case that the Leader of the Opposition has 14 days to form a Government? I don't believe it is. The rule that the Prime Minister remains in office until she advises the Queen to send for her successor remains; Jeremy Corbyn can't form a Government not because he doesn't have the confidence of his own MPs but because there's a Tory majority. In the event of the current House of Commons passing a No Confidence motion, everyone sits about watching box sets of The West Wing for two weeks until the election is called.
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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby dls » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:36 pm

In the event of the current House of Commons passing a No Confidence motion, everyone sits about watching box sets of The West Wing for two weeks until the election is called.


More likely Borgen nowadays?
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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby Hairyloon » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:31 pm

Smouldering Stoat wrote:Is it the case that the Leader of the Opposition has 14 days to form a Government? I don't believe it is...

More of a guideline than a rule perhaps?
A motion of no confidence, or censure motion, is a motion moved in the House of Commons with the wording: 'That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government'. If such a motion is agreed to, and a new government with the support of a majority of MPs cannot be formed within a period of 14 calendar days, Parliament is dissolved and an early General Election is triggered.

http://www.parliament.uk/site-informati ... onfidence/
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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:46 pm

Yes, but that doesn't say that the Leader of the Opposition has to be given the opportunity to try. It doesn't say the Prime Minister has to resign.

The usual conventions apply as when any new Government is formed: the Prime Minister should advise the Queen to send for Corbyn only if he can command the confidence of the House, which he can't.
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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby atticus » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:32 am

Mind you, if these tory MPs will keep resigning ...
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Re: No Confidence (again).

Postby Hairyloon » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:44 am

atticus wrote:Mind you, if these tory MPs will keep resigning ...

Has another one gone?

And there are a couple of dozen still under investigation for election expenses... unless the investigation has finished and they don't have the bottle to tell anyone.
But considering how long it took them to work out the cost of Ed's gravestone, I guess we can expect that investigation to conclude around 2020.
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