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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby Hairyloon » Thu May 28, 2015 2:45 pm

dls wrote:There was the famous complaint that a court had accepted that a claimant should not be deported because of his cat. The judgment was published and it showed that this was simply untrue. It seems that someone wilfully or otherwise misinterpreted the Home Office barristers reort back..

As I recall, it was first brought up in a UKIP rabble rousing rally, and then repeated word for word by the home secretary...
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby dls » Thu May 28, 2015 4:36 pm

No - I think it came from the barrister who had failed at the hearing.
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby Hairyloon » Thu May 28, 2015 5:17 pm

I meant brought up to the wider public.
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby LawChild » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:38 pm

Mr. LawChild LL.B., LL.M, BPTC. My posts are not legal advice. In any event, believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear.
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby dls » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:24 pm

Thank you
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby Hairyloon » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:52 pm

After a brief distraction, they're back on with their other manifesto commitments:
http://www.theweek.co.uk/63635/human-ri ... t-confirms
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby dls » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:26 pm

. . but scrapping the Human Rights Act will not have many of the effects wanted. Human Rights law and the ECHR was effective within the UK for thirty (?) years without the Act. We signed up to the Convention. HRA embeds it within our law, but we would still be bound by it.
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:46 pm

dls wrote:. . but scrapping the Human Rights Act will not have many of the effects wanted...

What effects is it that you think are wanted?
As I understand the desired effect is to scapegoat most of the problems they have had on "Labour's Human Rights Act" in much the same way as the EU has been scapegoat for all the things it has been blamed on.
What excuse they will use for still having the same problems will remain to be seen, but it will probably let them feel big and clever for a while...
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby atticus » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:53 pm

But the UK is still party to international treaties including the European Convention on Human Rights. This is wharpt these anti Human Rights Act types forget. The HRA brings directly into law what being a party to the Convention did indirectly.
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Re: "Protecting human rights in the UK"

Postby dls » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:20 am

The fundamental aim is that we are (it is said) better deciding for ourselves what our human rights obligations are. This would express it self in making laws without contradiction from a non uk body, and not having our courts second guessed by johnny-foreigner.

In either case the simple fact is that we have signed those rights away. We did so when, having mostly drafted, the Convention, we signed up, mostly, to it.

In addition there is a real issue which is that if we do insist on making our own bill of rights what is to stop other countries doing exactly the same. If we insist on having Human Rights light after our own predelictions, what is to stop, any other country - Russia, Turkey, France doing just the same.

It is a huge error of judgment.
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