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Postby dls » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:03 pm

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Re: A future legal profession?

Postby Spankymonkey » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:05 pm

How does the back end of this computerised flowchart contest the ticket on the users behalf exactly? The BBC plug, sorry I meant news report, failed to mention that bit.
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Re: A future legal profession?

Postby atticus » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:25 pm

A guess is that it churns out an answer, highlighting a few reasons if it concludes that the charge is invalid. Perhaps for a fee it will produce a template letter that says "the charge is invalid for the following reasons: [series of numbered paragraphs listing points]". That should not be difficult to program - it is a glorified tick-box exercise.
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Postby Russell » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:06 pm

algorithm
ˈalɡərɪð(ə)m/
noun
a process or set of rules to be followed in calculations or other problem-solving operations, especially by a computer.

Sound exactly like the legal process to me.
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Re: A future legal profession?

Postby atticus » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:21 pm

Some legal processes, certainly.

All? Not at present.
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Postby theycantdothat » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:06 am

Not sure computers are yet capable of being programmed to apply the rules of equity.
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Re: A future legal profession?

Postby dls » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:25 am

Many many years ago, I was involved tangentially in discussions about the development of AI systems for sentencing. I came to a clear conviction that such systems may have a lot of value, but that any practice of law worth its salt is intensely creative. It is about being able to see tiny peculiarities which can make the entire differences to the result.

Since then AI has come on an awful lot, but it remains in essence deductive. It can bring an awful lot to the table, but the real world has infinite new possibilities.
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Re: A future legal profession?

Postby Russell » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:56 am

You'd seem well placed to work on such a system DLS.

Any ideas on what big data means for the legal profession? We are doing a lot on Big Data at the moment, it seems to apply everywhere once you start looking.
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Re: A future legal profession?

Postby atticus » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:59 am

Who are we?

Data science is a different question altogether. There is a lot of work being done on computerised analysis of data in digital form, aiming to save what in some cases would be many months' work reading every last page checking the probative value. Predictive coding is one of the current buzz words.

Listen to a recent episode of Law in Action (BBC R4).
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Postby Russell » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:21 pm

Okay all lost on me, but that's what's so exciting about big data that its allowing for so much new and interesting uses. Will have a look for that for that R4 program cheers.
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