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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby atticus » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:45 pm

Denny, please understand that if you want to get anywhere as a law student or fighter for justice or whatever it is you aspire to be, you need to get your facts right. You do not simply cut and paste a few words and use pretty colours without making sure that you understand their meaning and how they can properly support your point.

Understand that and you stand a chance of getting somewhere. But at the moment we don't see any of that. Speaking for myself, all I see is someone with a pavlovian knee-jerk reaction. That won't help those poor souls that you are purporting to help.
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby Denning » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:48 pm

Smouldering Stoat wrote:Define "high judicial office".

Anyone who sat as a judge of the High Court and above.
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:49 pm

And what is the source of this definition?
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby Denning » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:52 pm

Smouldering Stoat wrote:And what is the source of this definition?

Asking me about my own definition is not the issue. You should provide your own definition if you do not agree with my own definition.
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:54 pm

So you have no source. What is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby atticus » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:59 pm

There is a definition of "high judicial office" in s60(2)(a) Constitutional Reform Act 2005.

Deputy High Court Judge does not come within that definition.

(Remember what I just said a few posts above about accuracy and such like, 'ning?)
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby Denning » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:03 pm

Smouldering Stoat wrote:So you have no source. What is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

You are free to reach such conclusion. But I believe I have provided a definition that its content is unimpeachable.

Someone who has held a High Judicial Office is synonymous to someone who has presided in a Court of Unlimited Jurisdiction.
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby atticus » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:06 pm

No it isn't. See earlier.
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby Denning » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:23 pm

atticus wrote:There is a definition of "high judicial office" in s60(2)(a) Constitutional Reform Act 2005.

Deputy High Court Judge does not come within that definition.

(Remember what I just said a few posts above about accuracy and such like, 'ning?)


2)In this Part—

(a)“high judicial office” means office as a judge of any of the following courts—

(i)the Supreme Court;

(ii)the Court of Appeal in England and Wales;

(iii)the High Court in England and Wales;

(iv)the Court of Session;

(v)the Court of Appeal in Northern Ireland;

(vi)the High Court in Northern Ireland;

or as a Lord of Appeal in Ordinary;

The above which was not a general definition but for the purposes of the act did not prohibit a Deputy High Court Judge from the definition I have provided and you have not provided any practice direction or rules of the court which prohibited a Deputy High Court Judge from the definition of a High Judicial Office. The defining phrase above is office as a judge. A Deputy High Court Judge holds an office as a judge of the High Court.
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Re: Peter Smith J - in trouble again

Postby atticus » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:25 pm

Denn, look up the word "office" in this context. Also understand the word "Deputy". Your last sentence is wrong (accuracy? Did you read that post?)

Nice use of colour and font size, by the way.
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