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Faith in the system.

Postby Foxy » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:55 am

Unsure if this is the right place to pose but please feel free to move if not

I'm assuming some of you guys are in and out of court quite a lot.

Is the judicial system really is what is suggested.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCQ ... obilebasic
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby atticus » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:58 am

Sorry, but I am not going to risk my computer system by following that link.

What does that link suggest? Who wrote whatever it is? What axe does that person have to grind?
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby Foxy » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:01 am

It is about curuptipn in the judicial system. It's also a google docs document so little risk.
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby atticus » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:25 am

the OP may mean corruption.
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby Foxy » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:57 pm

The op was on the move so didn't proof read before posting.

Perhaps a comment on the subject matter, as apposed to playing a spelling cop, would be more constructive?
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby atticus » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:06 pm

having looked at that thing on a mobile device not connected to my company's system, I can only say:

FFS.

Persons who are disappointed before the courts do sometimes complain about corruption, and this person seems to be one such, but the reasons for the outcome not being what they wanted are usually more prosaic. Judges can get things wrong. Reading of appeal cases shows that. But corruption is vanishingly rare.
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby shootist » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:50 pm

Foxy wrote:Unsure if this is the right place to pose but please feel free to move if not

I'm assuming some of you guys are in and out of court quite a lot.

Is the judicial system really is what is suggested.


Of course it is, ask any Freeman of the Land.
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby Hairyloon » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:34 pm

atticus wrote:But corruption is vanishingly rare.

I wouldn't claim to have made a deep enough study to be definitive, but I would have to agree. Cock-ups possibly common, even endemic and conniving to cover those perhaps, but it comes a fair way short of actual corruption I think.
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby shootist » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:52 am

One should never attribute to malice anything adequately explained by incompetence.
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Re: Faith in the system.

Postby dls » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:39 pm

While it was observed by the defendant, that Police opened files and used the computer, at that time, and inserted a USB stick, the evidence on the computer was now clearly tainted.


It would no doubt have been better had they acted within the protocol, but a failure to do so does not 'taint' the evidence derived. The failue provides an opportunity to question the evidence. Nine times out of ten it might still be admitted and properly so.

The author appears to have a view on the admission and use of evidence derived from watching too many US TV programs. There evidene is 'tainted' and thrown out. Here it is questiond and used in accordance with its relevance and cogency and probative value.
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