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Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:17 am

I am being told a tale where the defendant rejected the papers sent to him because they were addressed to "Mr <no names>" and they do not identify with being a Mister.
A default judgment was sought and gained and the defendant is seeking to have it overturned on the grounds that the papers were not served.
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby atticus » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:30 pm

The person is a fool.
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby 3.14 » Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:43 pm

That will fail.
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:14 pm

That was my instinctive opinion. I think they are perhaps making a misguided stand for the gender anomalous community.
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby dls » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:27 pm

He/she may find it expensive.

It does of course raise an interesting philosophical question. A name is a label stuck on an object. As such it has no meaning. I cannot insist that you call be by my name. As a label, it is a label you choose to use when referring to me. How can I have or expect any control over that?

The Mr/Mrs/Miss etc is not an essential part of the name. It is an honorific. It reflects not the identity of the person, but the form of respect paid by the person using it toward the addressee. Whatever complaint I make of the label people use to refer to me, to insist on a particular form of honour seems a little demanding. In this particular context however, all that matter is that it is not part of a name, and therefore not part of the essence of what is required for service.
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:42 pm

dls wrote:He/she may find it expensive

Best to say "they", I think: it's a neither or both situation...
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby dls » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:54 pm

I do not think it matters. It may be a matter of politeness, but it really is nothing more.
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby atticus » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:56 pm

They is third person plural.
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby Hairyloon » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:58 pm

They are plurals...
The word they (with its counterparts them, their, and themselves) as a singular pronoun to refer to a person of unspecified gender has been used since at least the 16th century. In the late 20th century, as the traditional use of he to refer to a person of either gender came under scrutiny on the grounds of sexism, this use of they became more common...

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/they
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Re: Papers wrongly addressed?

Postby dls » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:11 pm

All of which has zero significance in law or logic.
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