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Arresting Protestors.

Arresting Protestors.

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:22 am

A Green party councillor was among seven people arrested after a standoff with police during the latest protest against tree-felling in Sheffield.
Alison Teal and six others were detained on suspicion of preventing workmen from chopping down a tree in Chippinghouse Road, Nether Edge, at about 9.30am on Monday.
Teal’s partner, Simon Crump, accused the police of “ramping up the situation” and “turning a peaceful demonstration into a mass arrest”.
South Yorkshire police said four women and three men had been arrested on suspicion of preventing lawful work under section 241 of the Trade Union and Labour Relations Act 1992.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ee-protest

I assume they mean this:

Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992 wrote:241 Intimidation or annoyance by violence or otherwise.

(1)A person commits an offence who, with a view to compelling another person to abstain from doing or to do any act which that person has a legal right to do or abstain from doing, wrongfully and without legal authority—
(a)uses violence to or intimidates that person or his [F1spouse or civil partner] or children, or injures his property,
(b)persistently follows that person about from place to place,
(c)hides any tools, clothes or other property owned or used by that person, or deprives him of or hinders him in the use thereof,
(d)watches or besets the house or other place where that person resides, works, carries on business or happens to be, or the approach to any such house or place, or
(e)follows that person with two or more other persons in a disorderly manner in or through any street or road.
(2)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or both.


Interesting to see the police thinking outside of the box for a change: it shows they are capable, but I'm not seeing this as a particularly helpful use that they are putting their ability to. :/
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby dls » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:53 am

It is one of those situations where someone in Sheffield city council appears to have dug their heels in, and now it appears to be no more than pride on their part that they wil not admit that the Socialist Republic could be wrong.
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby atticus » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:21 am

Can I ask the OP to explain why he sees (or doesn't see) things that way.

The question is not about whether the tree should be cut down: like it or not, it appears that decision has been taken. So he appears to be questioning the involvement of the police in dealing with persons seeking to prevent this work being done.
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:30 am

dls wrote:It is one of those situations where someone in Sheffield city council appears to have dug their heels in, and now it appears to be no more than pride on their part that they wil not admit that the Socialist Republic could be wrong.


atticus wrote:Can I ask the OP to explain why he sees (or doesn't see) things that way.

The question is not about whether the tree should be cut down: like it or not, it appears that decision has been taken. So he appears to be questioning the involvement of the police in dealing with persons seeking to prevent this work being done.


Exactly so. To both of you.
Although I am moved to question whether the decision to remove the tree was wise, or properly made, that is not the question on the table and if it was, I might ask where Will has got to? However for the purpose of the discussion, we can assume the protesters are of the yoghurt weaving variety.
But if this was not the council what prospect do you think there is of persuading the police that this was not simply a civil dispute?
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby atticus » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:03 am

A breach of the peace seems a real possibility. That takes it out of the civil law realm, for starters.
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:08 am

atticus wrote:A breach of the peace seems a real possibility. That takes it out of the civil law realm, for starters.

Possibly, but I don't see it: how does standing around quietly cause a breach of the peace?
And that was not what the report says they were arrested for.
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:45 am

I am making the assumption that they were peacefully protesting: preventing the work simply by their presence, in which case, I am not really seeing which section of S241 that they are applying, unless it is (d): looking at him in a funny way...
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby atticus » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:50 am

You may have set out the basis on which any prosecution will be defended.
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:07 pm

atticus wrote:You may have set out the basis on which any prosecution will be defended.

I will be quite surprised if they go as far as a prosecution, but I will let you know if I hear anything about it.
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Re: Arresting Protestors.

Postby Hairyloon » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:39 pm

Meanwhile, somewhere else in the city...

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Personally, I do not see this as efficient, nor proper use of police resources.
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