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Death threats in jest...

Death threats in jest...

Postby Hairyloon » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:28 pm

Apparantly this chap writes for the Guardian:

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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby shootist » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:57 pm

People desperately seeking victim status.
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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby Hairyloon » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:12 pm

shootist wrote:People desperately seeking victim status.

Which one?
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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby atticus » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:30 pm

The status of victim. That one.
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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby Hairyloon » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:10 pm

atticus wrote:The status of victim. That one.

Yeah, you make slightly less sense than he does.
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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby atticus » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:46 pm

This was a very unwise thing to say on line. Perhaps it amounts to a death threat, perhaps it doesn't. Perhaps it is some form of incitement, perhaps it isn't. But in these times where people get sacked, arrested, prosecuted for things they have said online, most unwise.

Simple rule - do not say anything online that you would not want your family, boss, judge or editor of the Daily Mail to read.
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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby megaman » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:15 pm

atticus wrote:This was a very unwise thing to say on line. Perhaps it amounts to a death threat, perhaps it doesn't. Perhaps it is some form of incitement, perhaps it isn't. But in these times where people get sacked, arrested, prosecuted for things they have said online, most unwise.


This does not amount to a threat to kill, or causing someone else to fear violence because it both of these require that the poster intendeds to cause the victim to fear that he will be killed or suffer violence.
This cannot be proved in this case.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/4
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vic ... section/16

Also in this case it is written as a what if statement so he has not even committed the act itself. Years ago when studying law a came across a very old case where a man pulled a sword on another man and said that he would kill him if the megestrate was not present. This was not an offence because he made it clear that he was not actually going to do it.

atticus wrote:Simple rule - do not say anything online that you would not want your family, boss, judge or editor of the Daily Mail to read.


I agree
For some people this is not a problem at all
But it can be a very serious problem if you parents are strict, or the tiniest little thing sets your abusive partner off, or your boss is a !&@5$
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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby dls » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:48 pm

More fool the Guardian.

I doubt it amounts to an offence, but it shows a pretty crass attitude.
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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby diy » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:13 am

Those aren't the only possible offences.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1977/45

taking a hit out on someone is a criminal offence, offering to start a fund to do it, might be conspiracy. I wonder if there is any case law on the defence of "I was only joking".

some guidance here: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/inchoate_offences/

e.g. Section 59 of the Serious Crime Act 2007
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Re: Death threats in jest...

Postby Spankymonkey » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:05 pm

It's highly unlikely a seasoned journalist would not know the potential consequences that could arise from sending a tweet of that nature. I suspect he had a broader motive for doing so. The fact that Corbyn hasn't complained or the police haven't dragged him out of his bed yet, could mean that the authorities suspect that the message was actually intended for them rather than Corbyn.

Perhaps he wants to be prosecuted so he's got something to write about.
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