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Postby Purple » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:44 pm

I am an EEA National from Romania that is planing to move to the UK. My boyfriend is British Citizen on income based Job seekers allowance and receives housing benefits. With all the things we read online it has become very confusing about what exactly it will entitle for me to move with him and how will that affect him and how will that affect his benefits so we can know how much money I will need ho have save up. We have been planing this move for a long time unfortunately nobody seems to give us strait answers, he called the council in the area that he lives in and they said that we will need to pay at least 50% of the rent but when an benefit calculation was done by us online it said that we would not need to pay anything. My question is how will my move there affect his benefits until i am able to apply and get a job there.

Thank you for your time and consideration
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Re: Help

Postby dls » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:47 pm

Good question, but it requires detailed knowledge which I do not have. Best of luck.
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Re: Help

Postby Boo » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:17 pm

You'll be classed as a non dependant - he will lose some entitlement to his housing benefit.
There should be an online entitlement form to fill out on his local authority site - ask him to fill it out - it will then give him a calculation of HB and CT support.

We do not make a deduction for any non-dependant if you or your partner are:
registered blind;
getting Attendance Allowance;
getting Constant Attendance Allowance;
getting the care component of Disability Living Allowance;
getting the standard or enhanced rate of the daily living component of Personal Independence Payment; or
getting Armed Forces Independence Payment
2. We do not make a deduction from either Housing Benefit or from Council Tax Support if the non-dependant:
is under 18;
is under 25 and on Income Support or income-based Jobseeker's Allowance or income-related Employment Support Allowance (assessment phase);
is under 25, has no earned income and is receiving Universal Credit;
is on work-based training for young people (formerly Youth Training) and getting a training allowance;
is a full-time student or student nurse;
has been in hospital for more than 52 weeks;
is in legal custody (on remand or after being sentenced);
usually lives elsewhere (but you need to tell us their permanent address or we will usually make the deduction); or
is getting Pension Credit (either the guaranteed part, the savings part, or both).
is your (or your partner's) son, daughter, step-son or step-daughter in the armed forces, during the time when they are deployed on operations. 'Operations' includes those within the UK as well as abroad. We will still make the deduction while they are living at home with you (unless you are in one of the groups in 1. above).
3. We do not make a deduction from Council Tax Support if the non-dependant:
is in one of the groups in 2. above
is under 25 and on income-related Employment Support Allowance (main phase)
is 25 or over and on Income Support or income-based Jobseeker's Allowance or income-related Employment Support Allowance (main phase or assessment phase);
is an apprentice*;
is a student who is working during the summer holidays;
is severely mentally disabled.


You will not be able to claim benefits when you arrive you until you have been here for 3 months.

https://fullfact.org/economy/migration- ... -benefits/
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Re: Help

Postby Purple » Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:27 am

Thank for your help up to now :)
The good news is that in the meantime my bf found a job albeit a temporary one unfortunately the contract that was supposed to last 3-6 months its not going to last that much. We are hoping he will find something else or the agency will find him something else but i`m not going to put my eggs in that basket.
I will move in UK in 5 weeks, we decided that we have waited enough (5 years) and its time to take the bull by the horns as the saying goes.
I will use the internet as a way to make money (until i find a job) part of it will be taxable (freelancing, blogging, virtual assistant, surveys, eBay sales etc) but most of it will be at least in the beginning nontaxable (matched betting) witch is considered gambling and by UK la its not taxable. I am hoping to make enough to sustain us until we find permanent full time jobs. To survive dept free we need about 650£ a month witch can be done its not exactly living but you do what you can :D My bf really does not want to go back on JC and I really don`t want to be on any benefits as depending on the state its something of a last resort for me at least (I guess its just how i grew up) but if anything goes wrong as it can( i am a pessimist) i need to ask how can i protect my bf`s right to claim JSA will i need to pay voluntary NI for him as well as me just so there is no break in his taxes payments.
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Re: Help

Postby Boo » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:52 pm

Purple wrote:if anything goes wrong as it can( i am a pessimist) i need to ask how can i protect my bf`s right to claim JSA will i need to pay voluntary NI for him as well as me just so there is no break in his taxes payments.


https://www.gov.uk/voluntary-national-i ... tributions

Given that we're not too far from the beginning of Christmas seasonal work, there will be more temporary vacancies about.
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Re: Help

Postby Purple » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:25 pm

That is true :) thank you very much for your help and advice :)
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Re: Help

Postby Purple » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:52 am

Hello again i don`t know if i should ask this someplace else or leave it here. I have read about the voluntary NI, NI and taxes i must pay depending on how much income i will make as self employed and tho i think they should think of the plebeians like me and explain it in a more clear way i got it in the end ! I have read somewhere that because i am EEA national(Romanian) that comes here without a job from the start i will have to get comprehensive health insurance. do i still have to get this if i register after i get my NIN as self employed and pay my taxes. Is it better to have private health insurance than relay on the public one? I don`t mind getting one but in the beginning times will be though and and the budget counted to the penny.

Thank you in advance for all the help
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Re: Help

Postby Boo » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:54 pm

That's a really good question. I have read some companies are withdrawing offers of comprehensive sickness insurance due to so many people cancelling their claims.

Note: the definition of comprehensive sickness insurance does not include cash-back health schemes, travel insurance policies, or access to the UK’s National Health Service (NHS). Hmmm.

Here's link to a site which may be more helpful to you - http://www.airecentre.org/pages/get-advice.html
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They have an email address and phone number. I'm interested in knowing their answer to your question. Please come back with an update.
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Re: Help

Postby dls » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:58 am

Good link - thank you
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Re: Help

Postby Purple » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:29 am

Hello, it's me yet again:) the answer i got from them was this one

Thank you for your request for advice made to the AIRE Centre. We receive a high volume of requests for advice and, unfortunately, cannot respond to all of them. We are currently at full capacity and unable to respond to your request.

We think you will be able to get advice elsewhere.


they gave me a few lawyers and these 2 documents

http://www.filedropper.com/eeapermanent ... -factsheet
http://www.filedropper.com/comprehensiv ... actsheet_1

tho i find it easier to read poetry in X century french this is what i have understood(please correct me if i am wrong as it may have turned in to fruit salad in my head) :
- because i will be a permanent resident here and will pay NI and i am part of the EEA i have the right to NHS (technically)
- if i would be just self sufficient and live here then i would have to pay the said insurance
- if we get married then technically i have the right to it because my husband has the right to it ? (am i fruity here ? )

So the thing is if i am working or self employed then i can access NHS, if i`m self sufficient then i need insurance.

Thank you for the help and support
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