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Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:51 am

The declaration on a council tax benefit claim form includes the following line: "Any information that I provide about another person, is provided with their permission."
Clearly then, if they don't have the permission, then they cannot provide the information.

So what if a lodger wants to play silly beggars with the council and declines permission?
His landlord could insist by dint of various threats, but that would surely be improper, so let us assume that he does not.

As far as I can see though, the only information that is actually relevant to the claim is the amount of rent being paid, but I am not finding an argument that says that how much rent a chap pays is not information about the chap.
One might argue that the amount of rent that a landlord receives is not information about the tenant, but if that argument holds for that point, it could be stretched to cover a multitude of information.
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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby atticus » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:30 pm

Your lodger, if playing silly buggers, clearly does not want to pursue a claim for benefit. You may inform her that she is being foolish.
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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:47 pm

It would be the landlord who is responsible for council tax and wanting to claim benefit in respect of that.
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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby dls » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:45 pm

The Data Protection Act is _not_ about not disclosing material. It is about disclosing only according to established principles.
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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:57 pm

The DPA may be the reason that the council put this on the form, but I don't think it is relevant to the question: the form requires a declaration and the declaration must be true.
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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby atticus » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:11 pm

If you can't make this declaration you need a new lodger. Tell her this; it may bring her to heel.
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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby Boo » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:43 pm

Hairyloon wrote:It would be the landlord who is responsible for council tax and wanting to claim benefit in respect of that.


How would they be entitled to *CTS or a reduction? :?





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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby Hairyloon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:52 pm

Boo wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:It would be the landlord who is responsible for council tax and wanting to claim benefit in respect of that.


How would they be entitled to *CTS or a reduction? :?

Why wouldn't they be?
They're both on low income.
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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby Boo » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:58 pm

The tenant or homeowner on a low income can get a reduction. A single rate if they live alone. Bring a lodger in to the equation and things change. The 1st person loses the single rate.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/h ... _first.htm

https://www.gov.uk/rent-room-in-your-ho ... ls-and-tax
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Re: Is rent paid information about the tenant?

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:00 pm

Unless the tenant's income - including his rent from the lodger - entitles him to support.
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