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Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby Hairyloon » Fri May 02, 2014 10:45 pm

To claim Jobseeker's Allowance you must be actively seeking work.
If one was to decide they want the job of an MP and start campaigning, then is that actively seeking work?
And if not, why not?
Is being an MP not a proper job, or are the jobcentre staff in a position to judge that it is not a realistic prospect?
They are the only grounds that I can think of, and neither is entirely convincing...
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby miner » Fri May 02, 2014 11:20 pm

Hairyloon wrote:To claim Jobseeker's Allowance you must be actively seeking work.
If one was to decide they want the job of an MP and start campaigning, then is that actively seeking work?


Not in my book, it's not!

And if not, why not?


Because you have to be elected to gain it.

Is being an MP not a proper job,.


No, only an MP would claim otherwise!
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby Boo » Fri May 02, 2014 11:28 pm

The DWP and JCP+ expect you to apply for jobs from a list of vacancies advertised in your local area. Local now means up to 3 hours travelling.
As long as you spend time trawling through the latest vacancies and show them evidence that you've been actively seeking work (via the universal job match) - you can campaign to your heart's content.
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby Hairyloon » Sat May 03, 2014 8:20 am

Boo wrote:As long as you spend time trawling through the latest vacancies and show them evidence...

As I understand, every advertised vacancy will get several hundred applicants, so that is about the least effective way of seeking work that I know of...
(via the universal job match)

Apart from that one.

you can campaign to your heart's content.

What does campaigning involve? Other than knocking on doors and talking to people about what they want sorted?
Many of the things people want sorted do not require an MP and some of them will be things that the chap can do as a job of work.
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby atticus » Sat May 03, 2014 8:23 am

Boo has showed you the box you need to tick. I thought that you want to be elected, not to get a job. If you won't play the system you'll be a hopeless MP ;)
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby Smouldering Stoat » Sat May 03, 2014 8:43 am

There have been worse MPs.

Is the term "actively seeking work" not further defined somewhere? I recall declaring that I was "actively seeking employment" but thankfully that was many years ago.

If so, Members of Parliament are not employees. Nor are they self-employed.
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby Hairyloon » Sat May 03, 2014 8:46 am

atticus wrote:I thought that you want to be elected, not to get a job.

Not me, it was a hypothetical musing...
If you won't play the system you'll be a hopeless MP ;)

I'd probably be a hopeless MP anyway: most of the things on my list are generally considered to be political suicide. ;)
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby Boo » Sat May 03, 2014 2:30 pm

Hairyloon wrote:
Boo wrote:As long as you spend time trawling through the latest vacancies and show them evidence...

As I understand, every advertised vacancy will get several hundred applicants, so that is about the least effective way of seeking work that I know of...
(via the universal job match)

Apart from that one.


I know, but dem is the rules.

Since the welfare reform last year, the rules have be tightened up and they are due to make more changes soon.

All JSA claimants have to register on the Universal Job Match site. People can no longer pop in to use the job search machine thingys - they have been removed from jcp+ offices.
The DWP want everything to be done online...except the process of signing on, of course.

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/Help/Fa ... uestion-50

Tip for claimants; set up a separate email account just for the UJM site. Do not hand over personal email addresses to the DWP.
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby Hairyloon » Sat May 03, 2014 3:01 pm

Boo wrote:The DWP want everything to be done online...except the process of signing on, of course.

But I am a Luddite: I don't have a computer and I don't know how to use one. The internet is the tool of the devil: it is full of pornography and hatred...
Are they not discriminating against my beliefs?
Tip for claimants; set up a separate email account just for the UJM site. Do not hand over personal email addresses to the DWP.

Is it still a security teabag and having more phishing scams than it has actual jobs?
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Re: Is campaigning for election actively seeking work?

Postby Boo » Sat May 03, 2014 3:25 pm

Hairyloon wrote:
Boo wrote:The DWP want everything to be done online...except the process of signing on, of course.

But I am a Luddite: I don't have a computer and I don't know how to use one. The internet is the tool of the devil: it is full of pornography and hatred...
Are they not discriminating against my beliefs?


But do you see what I see?
This a perfect opportunity for those who are IT lit-trit to start up a little venture where by a claimant can get help with setting up email accounts, create a CV, cover letter as well as access their UJM site. Claimants could drop in for an hour or so daily. My local library does offer a limited service of this nature but if a claimant has library fines, they can't access the service.
I'm aware that last year there was funding available (here) for such a venture.
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